Rotated the tires on the Golf for the first time

"BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind" (briangriffinsprius)
10/07/2017 at 18:29 • Filed to: None

Why must VW do things different than every other auto maker?? Lug nut studs, really?

DISCUSSION (29)

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 18:36

Those are called lug bolts and BMW uses ‘em too.

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gmctavish needs more space > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 18:37

Not only VW, that’s just an all German cars thing as far as I know. My friend made the good call to switch to studs a while back on his E30,

ToyotaFamily > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 18:38

I think most German cars use wheel studs. I remember my dad’s old 7 series having them.

That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 18:47

Check your tool kit, they usually give you a stud you can thread in to hang the wheel while you put in the other bolts.

bhtooefr > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms
10/07/2017 at 18:48

AFAIK that’s only a Passat or larger thing.

InFierority Complex > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 18:50

The whole Lancia Beta series uses lug bolts, and atleast with the Monte/Scorpion, no locator pin. At least they have the excuse of being designed in the early 70s.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > gmctavish needs more space
10/07/2017 at 18:52

Now I know! I just found it so strange...

Dave the car guy , still here > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 18:52

From working in domestic shops but owning several German cars they can save you having a wheel come free. Lug nuts if not tightened seem to spin off and then you suddenly drop a wheel on a curve or at speed. On the lug bolt cars they make a good amount of noise before they can work their way out so you are alerted to the loose wheel. Had one wheel loosen due to what we figured was a tar covered pebble on hub face of wheel from it laying in drive during a brake job. The noisy wheel let us know. The rock had partially crushed and several bolts were loose. We cleaned and tightened things again and all was good.

Urambo Tauro > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 18:54

My brother’s Saab has those. Fortunately, there’s a raised ring in the center of the hub to help hold it while rotating the wheel to line up the holes. For some reason there’s also a locator pin between two of the bolt-holes.

I hear that if you don’t like them, you can get studs and threadlock them in place, using regular lug nuts to retain the wheel.

Berang > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 18:56

My SAAB is the same way. Total POS to get the wheels on (steel wheels are a lot easier to get on than alloys).

duurtlang > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 19:14

I’ve always had cars with these. Not just German cars. When I bought something Japanese I was surprised it had lug nuts.

Right now, of the 5 cars I currently own 1 is a German car and zero have lug nuts.

Steve is equipped with Electronic Fool Injection > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 19:48

It’s pretty standard for European cars. Meepster has them too but it has a hub ring to hang the wheel.

TheTurbochargedSquirrel > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 20:11

I hate the lug studs on my Mini with a passion.

LimitedTimeOnly @ opposite-lock.com > That Bastard Kurtis - An Attempt to Standardize My Username Across Platforms
10/07/2017 at 20:42

They did not provide a wheel hanger on my 2016 GTI, but they are available on line for less than $10 , and worth it given that I change my wheels twice every month for autocross.

OPPOsaurus WRX > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 21:05

It makes doing brakes a lot easier

merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc > gmctavish needs more space
10/07/2017 at 21:10

The current Chrysler 200 uses them too.

BaconSandwich is tasty. > OPPOsaurus WRX
10/07/2017 at 21:37

How so?

DipodomysDeserti > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 21:52

That’s a European thing. My BMWs and FIAT both had them.

Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo > merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
10/07/2017 at 22:05

Well it is Italian....

Probenja > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 22:15

French cars also have them, honestly it’s not too bad compared to traditional lug nuts.

ThePenguin > duurtlang
10/07/2017 at 22:42

All the European makes do this, as well as some Dodge and Chrysler products due to fiat bases.

Dogsatemypants > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/07/2017 at 22:46

Volvos and newer jeeps have them too...

The more you know, the more you begin to understand just how dumb you really are.

gmctavish needs more space > merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
10/07/2017 at 22:47

Must be the Fiat influence....

But really, that’s surprising and weird

Full of the sound of the Gran Fury, signifying nothing. > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/08/2017 at 02:39

Try a Vanagon for fun. Lug bolts on one axle, lug nuts on the other - weirdness.

Having owned German cars almost exclusively over the last 30+ years, finding studs on the Mazda was a very pleasant change of pace.

OPPOsaurus WRX > BaconSandwich is tasty.
10/08/2017 at 11:56

You don’t have to take the caliper or mounting bracket off to get the disc off. The disc just slides out.

Dave the car guy , still here > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/08/2017 at 15:29

Forgot to say there is a wheel hanger stud in with jack that is plastic but you should buy an aluminum or steel one. I have an aluminum one and a 100mm bolt with same 14mm x 1.5 thread to use when changing to snow tires. There are various hangers available from about $9 to $20. The bolt I bought somewhere for about $4.

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The bolt is decent too as you can hold the wheel partially into place and thread the bolt in a few threads by hand, slide the wheel onto the hub and then proceed to install 4 of the lug bolts. I cut a slight V into the long bolt threads so it acts also as a non-aggressive tap and can be used to clean things if the hub holes have any rust.

merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc > OPPOsaurus WRX
10/08/2017 at 20:58

Not sure which brakes you’ve worked on that have enough slop in the mounting bracket to allow the rotors off without pulling the bracket? 3 audis, and a newer style beetle that I’ve worked on, would all beg to differ.

theloudmouth > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
10/08/2017 at 21:36

I like a lot of what the Germans do, but this truly drives me bat shit insane whenever I put on my winters or summers on twice a year.

OPPOsaurus WRX > merged-5876237249235911857-hrw8uc
10/09/2017 at 07:43

maybe? i dont remember having to do it for the allroad